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    Question Barton 2500+ di 3D Mark 2001 dan 2003 dikenal Duron



    Barton 2500+ gw kok di 3D Mark 2001 dan 2003 dikenal keluarga Duron, pdhl dulu waktu pake Athlon XP 2000+ aja T-Bird, kok bisa ya . Trus, klo di bios diset default, FSBnya jd 100. Jadi biasanya FSB dinaikkan jadi 166 (333) baru bisa jadi Barton 2500+.
    Jangan2 Barton ane = Duron yg diupgrade ya. Jadi pusing ni...
    Oya Mobo Asus A7N8X-x
    Bisa bantu guys,...help me otre. Thanks

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    ya memang harus 166 kan baru namanya Barton?

    mana ada barton fsb 133?

    cuek lah berapa skornya emang?

    liat cache nya berapa?

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    gpp mas, masalah pembacaan string aja sama software itu biasanya. Coba saja di cek L2 cache-nya berapa, menggunakan program seperti CPUZ, WCPUID, dll.

    L2 = 64kb (Duron)
    L2 = 256kb (palomino / tbred / thorton)
    L2 = 512kb (barton)

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    Euy mo nanya nech. Mana yg lebih bagus diantara ke2 Proc dibawah ini? Yg AMD XP L2nya 256Kb yp kok namanya Duron, katanya si Mitz Duron mempunyai L2 64Kb. Hayoo gimana tuh?????????


    Athlon XP 1700+
    Manufacturer: AMD
    Family: Palomino
    Internal Clock: 1.44GHz
    Internal Clock Maximum: 2.15GHz
    External Clock: 133MHz
    Socket Designation: Socket A
    Type: unknown
    Upgrade: ZIF Socket
    Capabilities: MMX, CMov, RDTSC, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE
    Version: AMD Athlon(tm) XP
    CPUID: 0x00000662
    Athlon XP 1800+
    Manufacturer: AMD
    Family: Duron(tm)
    Internal Clock: 1.50GHz
    Internal Clock Maximum: 2.15GHz
    External Clock: 133MHz
    Socket Designation: Socket A
    Type: unknown
    Upgrade: ZIF Socket
    Capabilities: MMX, CMov, RDTSC, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE
    Version: AMD Athlon(tm) XP
    CPUID: 0x00000681

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibnu
    Euy mo nanya nech. Mana yg lebih bagus diantara ke2 Proc dibawah ini? Yg AMD XP L2nya 256Kb yp kok namanya Duron, katanya si Mitz Duron mempunyai L2 64Kb. Hayoo gimana tuh?????????


    Athlon XP 1700+
    Manufacturer: AMD
    Family: Palomino
    Internal Clock: 1.44GHz
    Internal Clock Maximum: 2.15GHz
    External Clock: 133MHz
    Socket Designation: Socket A
    Type: unknown
    Upgrade: ZIF Socket
    Capabilities: MMX, CMov, RDTSC, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE
    Version: AMD Athlon(tm) XP
    CPUID: 0x00000662
    Athlon XP 1800+
    Manufacturer: AMD
    Family: Duron(tm)
    Internal Clock: 1.50GHz
    Internal Clock Maximum: 2.15GHz
    External Clock: 133MHz
    Socket Designation: Socket A
    Type: unknown
    Upgrade: ZIF Socket
    Capabilities: MMX, CMov, RDTSC, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE
    Version: AMD Athlon(tm) XP
    CPUID: 0x00000681
    Dari penjelasan diatas aku nemuin kejanggalan diantaranya :
    1. Ath-XP 1800+ cuma kedetect 1,5 Ghz doang padahal default clock speednya sekitar 1,53 Ghz. Mungkin aja clock speednya diturunin secara otomatis sama m/b anda tapi penurunannya koq banyak banget (sampai 30Mhz) jadi kemungkinannya anda menurunkan speednya sendiri (secara sengaja ataupun tidak).
    2. Oom Mitz udah ngejelasin bahwa yang benar adalah :
    L2 = 64kb (Duron)
    L2 = 256kb (palomino / tbred / thorton)
    L2 = 512kb (barton)
    dan satu lagi (sekedar nambahin)AMD sempron 462 juga udah ber L2cache 256Kb dan FSB 166. Jadi mungkin cuman dari masalah pembacaan string aja sama software.

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    Sorry mas nadrexa, itu semuanya gue lihat lewat system info di 3DMark '01,
    kalo di sisoft sandra '04 ya 1.53 Ghz. Ini dari Sisoft Sandra:

    Processor
    Model : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1800+
    Speed : 1.53GHz
    Model Number : 1800 (estimated)
    Performance Rating : PR2220 (estimated)
    Type : Standard
    Package : Socket A PGA
    Multiplier : 23/2x
    Generation : G7
    Name : Duron M8 & Athlon MP/XP & Sempron (Thoroughbred) 130nm 1.5-2.5GHz+ 1.5-1.65V
    Revision/Stepping : 8 / 1 (0)
    Stepping Mask : B0
    Core Voltage Rating : 1.650V
    Maximum Physical /
    Virtual Addressing : 34-bit / 32-bit
    Native Page Size : 4kB

    Co-Processor (FPU)
    Type : Built-in
    Revision/Stepping : 8 / 1 (0)

    Processor Cache(s)
    Internal Data Cache : 64kB Synchronous Write-Back (2-way, 64 byte line size)
    Internal Instruction Cache : 64kB Synchronous Write-Back (2-way, 64 byte line size)
    L2 On-board Cache : 256kB ECC Synchronous Write-Back (16-way, 64 byte line size)
    L2 Cache Multiplier : 1/1x (1531MHz)

    Nah dari keterangan diatas bisa ga jelasin:
    1. Ini proc. sebenarnya namanya apa sih? Duron, Athlon XP Ato Sempron ato Dll (gue msh bingung soal nama/type keluarga AMD)
    2. Disitu tertera L2nya 256Kb, berarti bkn Duron kan? Kok Di 3D Mark'01 tertulis Family: Duron(tm)
    3. Dibanding spec AMD XP1700+ Palomino dng Spec diatas, mana yg bagus?
    4. Batas suhu oc AMD yg wajar berapa sih? Gue coba oc yg 1800+ ke 2400+ suhunya 68-73 derajat, msh wajar aja ngga itu?

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    Oh iya Timing yg cocok dng AMD XP 1800+ berapa ya? Gue msh lumayan bingung soal timing memory
    APACER 256MB PC 3200 CL3.0
    Mobo MSI K7N2 Delta L
    Last edited by ibnu; 28-10-2004 at 02:46.

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    Coba pake AIDA32, mestinya keterangan disana lebih jelas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibnu
    Sorry mas nadrexa, itu semuanya gue lihat lewat system info di 3DMark '01,
    kalo di sisoft sandra '04 ya 1.53 Ghz. Ini dari Sisoft Sandra:

    Processor
    Model : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1800+
    Speed : 1.53GHz
    Model Number : 1800 (estimated)
    Performance Rating : PR2220 (estimated)
    Type : Standard
    Package : Socket A PGA
    Multiplier : 23/2x
    Generation : G7
    Name : Duron M8 & Athlon MP/XP & Sempron (Thoroughbred) 130nm 1.5-2.5GHz+ 1.5-1.65V
    Revision/Stepping : 8 / 1 (0)
    Stepping Mask : B0
    Core Voltage Rating : 1.650V
    Maximum Physical /
    Virtual Addressing : 34-bit / 32-bit
    Native Page Size : 4kB

    Co-Processor (FPU)
    Type : Built-in
    Revision/Stepping : 8 / 1 (0)

    Processor Cache(s)
    Internal Data Cache : 64kB Synchronous Write-Back (2-way, 64 byte line size)
    Internal Instruction Cache : 64kB Synchronous Write-Back (2-way, 64 byte line size)
    L2 On-board Cache : 256kB ECC Synchronous Write-Back (16-way, 64 byte line size)
    L2 Cache Multiplier : 1/1x (1531MHz)

    Nah dari keterangan diatas bisa ga jelasin:
    1. Ini proc. sebenarnya namanya apa sih? Duron, Athlon XP Ato Sempron ato Dll (gue msh bingung soal nama/type keluarga AMD)
    2. Disitu tertera L2nya 256Kb, berarti bkn Duron kan? Kok Di 3D Mark'01 tertulis Family: Duron(tm)
    3. Dibanding spec AMD XP1700+ Palomino dng Spec diatas, mana yg bagus?
    4. Batas suhu oc AMD yg wajar berapa sih? Gue coba oc yg 1800+ ke 2400+ suhunya 68-73 derajat, msh wajar aja ngga itu?
    1. Sempron hanya bisa diketahui oleh SiSandra 2004 SP2
    2. Jangan percaya 3dmark
    3. Bagusan diatas lah (Tbred terdingin melawan Palomino yang hampir maksimal or lebih panas)
    4. 90 derajat




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    Quote Originally Posted by VallCom
    1. Sempron hanya bisa diketahui oleh SiSandra 2004 SP2
    2. Jangan percaya 3dmark
    3. Bagusan diatas lah (Tbred terdingin melawan Palomino yang hampir maksimal or lebih panas)
    4. 90 derajat
    1.Dimana aku bs dowload sandra'04 SP2?
    2.Emang aku dah curiga nih 3dmark kayaknya ngaco.
    3.90derajat! Ga salah nich? bisa masak air dong aku. aku baca2 di thread prosresor, suhu 40-50 aja dah kayak kebakaran jenggot. Nih HSFku msh yg biasa2 aja.

    Makasih ya Vallcom jawabannya, tapi kalo ampe jebol prosesorku (kamu bilang batasnya 90drjt) ta cari kamu lho.


 

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