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ini sebenarnya VGA / PSU saya ya yang bermasalah?? - 11-10-2009, 11:51

3-4 hari yg lalu saya kaget liat suhu VGA saya yg panas bgt.. sekitar 80++ Celcius ( baru aja kelar main NFS shift).
ternyata setelah tanya2, untuk VGA saya seharusnya idle di 40~50 Celcius dan load di 60~70 Celcius
sedangkan punya saya idle 50~60 Celcius dan load di 70++ (bisa mencapai 90 kalo di siang hari dan AC mati.. karena hawa di rumah saya memang panas sekali)
lalu saya juga temukan ternyata salah satu kipas pendingin VGA saya mati!! entah sejak kapan karena saya tidak selalu mengecek kondisi hardware sebelum menyalakan PC (biasanya saya hanya memantau suhu via GPU monitor, dan sebelum ada kejadian ini saya menganggap suhu VGA saya baik idle dan load adalah wajar)
sejarah VGA saya juga buruk, dari pembelian desember sudah RMA 2 kali gara2 kasus artifact, pada kasus ke 2 saya buatkan thread di chip:
Artifak berpola ( bahkan ketika standby di desktop)
akhirnya tadi malam saya coba test dengan ATI tools 0.27 dan OCCT 3.1.0,ternyata positif artifact di bawah 1 menit!

kesimpulan saya, jika hardware (VGA) saya mengalami keanehan sampai 3x dengan gejala yg kurang lebih sama... mungkin ada penyebab lain(saya masih positive thinking dengan kualitas VGA yg diproduksi oleh vendor pembuat VGA yg saya pakai - POV).
saya curiga PSU saya yg bermasalah (BS II), mengingat dulu ketika ngerakit PC saya ini, PC selalu mati sendiri dan akhirnya PSU ditukar dengan yang baru.saya juga tidak pernah melakukan upgrade / downgrade pada spek hardware2 di PC saya (dr pertama beli sudah pakai BS II,9800GTX+,E8400,dsb)

Pertanyaan2 saya yg mungkin chipper bisa bantu kasih pencerahan:
1.kabel2 PSU saya ikat dengan cable tie dengan tujuan untuk kerapian dan better airflow..
apakah mempengaruhi kestabilan arus yg dihasilkan?
SS (cable tie berwarna pink):
http://upload.kapanlagi.com/h/200910...150f6e05f7.jpg

http://upload.kapanlagi.com/h/200910...150f6f16ba.jpg

http://upload.kapanlagi.com/h/200910...150f704a2e.jpg

2.ketika booting (antara layar masih hitam sampai dengan munculnya logo windows), ada suara seolah2 ada jack audio yg baru kecolok / kedetect "JEBBBB" disusul noise "....SsSSssS" lalu hilang
apakah ada hubungannya dengan kualitas arus listrik yg dihasilkan (dan juga kasus no.1)?
dasar kecurigaan:
http://www.chip.co.id/classifieds/sh.../130379/cat/15

quoted from Genzo_milano:
" arus listrik yg masuk jd bersih, ngurangin noise2 pd perangkat audio, bikin gmbr d monitor jd lbh terang n soft warnanya"

3.saya melakukan OC pada PC saya dan dilakukan oleh teman saya (di OC sejak Januari '09)... system memang stabil dan tidak pernah BSOD.
namun saya tidak paham mengenai suhu dan tegangan voltase.pada value brp masih dikategorikan "safe" dan pada value brp dikategorikan "nekat / maksain"
mohon pencerahannya dr bro chipper, apakah OC yg diterapkan di PC saya termasuk "safe" ato "nekat / maksa"

berikut saya sertakan SS:
http://upload.kapanlagi.com/h/200910...153a70c1f8.jpg

4.Jika VGA saya upgrade ke GTX 260, perlu upgrade PSU juga ato sudah "cukupan" dengan BS II? (maaf mungkin sedikit OOT)

tambahan, saya coba melakukan rail test dgn OCCT untuk nge cek apakah arus listrik PSU saya stabil ato naik-turun, saya set di 5 minutes test namun terhenti karena suhu CPU terlalu panas (nge test nya siang hari dan tanpa AC,, mana hawa di rumah ud panas)
SS:

CPU1
http://upload.kapanlagi.com/h/200910...15f9715564.jpg

CPU2
http://upload.kapanlagi.com/h/200910...15f971ca02.jpg

GPU
http://upload.kapanlagi.com/h/200910...15f9721791.jpg

VCore
http://upload.kapanlagi.com/h/200910...15f9726611.jpg

3V
http://upload.kapanlagi.com/h/200910...15f972db20.jpg

5V
http://upload.kapanlagi.com/h/200910...15f9735042.jpg

12V
http://upload.kapanlagi.com/h/200910...15f9739ec0.jpg

sebelumnya minta maaf karena ud nyita waktu bro buat baca thread yg panjang ini. jika ternyata software2 yg saya pakai untuk analisa kurang reliable ato masih kurang, ditunggu sarannya...

best regard

*stress VGA kok artifact terus....... *
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Re: ini sebenarnya VGA / PSU saya ya yang bermasalah?? - 11-10-2009, 22:24

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3-4 hari yg lalu saya kaget liat suhu VGA saya yg panas bgt.. sekitar 80++ Celcius ( baru aja kelar main NFS shift).
ternyata setelah tanya2, untuk VGA saya seharusnya idle di 40~50 Celcius dan load di 60~70 Celcius
sedangkan punya saya idle 50~60 Celcius dan load di 70++ (bisa mencapai 90 kalo di siang hari dan AC mati.. karena hawa di rumah saya memang panas sekali)

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klo soal panas wajar bro kan (baru aja kelar maen NFS) biasanya suhu balik ke normal idle abis 3- 5 mntan gt (pengalaman pake onbrot gf 82,soal suhu,ane sampe 90 masih ok2 aja,

klo soal PSU IMO dah ckp deh, ato klo g yakin di Garansiin aja coba BSII nya FSP LTW kan ?

or coba dulu vga nya di Rig laen... artifak juga g ? klo ia, ya ada kemungkinan vga nya....

*ilmu saya br sedikit jd baru itu aja yg bs saya berikan


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Re: ini sebenarnya VGA / PSU saya ya yang bermasalah?? - 12-10-2009, 08:39

1. kabel psu diiket pake cable tie, rapi iya, pengaruh ke kestabilan arus no

2. bagaimana kondisi kelistrikan di rumah? stabil listriknya?
terus pake stabilizer ato ups yg dicolok?

3. coba pc dijalankan pada kondisi default dulu, bagaimana hasilnya?

4. BSII kuat ngangkat GTX260, itu OC CPU pake coolingnya apa? kalo stock cooling sih bakalan parah suhunya kalo diOC tinggi, n bisa jadi penyebab masalah



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Re: ini sebenarnya VGA / PSU saya ya yang bermasalah?? - 12-10-2009, 09:03

Modal CPU Cooler donk bro.... Emang sih OC ringan, kalo suhu sekitar panas sekali ya jadi panas deh...



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Re: ini sebenarnya VGA / PSU saya ya yang bermasalah?? - 12-10-2009, 10:34

g curiga kepanasan krn airflow mgkn jelek, tp panasnya itu apa gara2 airflownya?

Contoh suhu ruangan g 27-29 kl ac nyala, suhu casing 30-33.

Susahnya terkadang org doyan kipas moding tanpa peduli gunanya angin kipas itu.kl g kebalikan, g ga peduli kipas bgs/jelek pokoknya kudu bagus anginnya.
Aplg mau oc2an, kipas intake g 8pcs 12cm @1300, 1800rpm, 1pcs 8cm 3000rpm.
Out 4pcs 12cm 1600rpm x2, 2600rpm x2, 1pcs 9cm 5400rpm, 1pcs 8cm 3000rpm. Yah udah cukup buat g, walopun ga imbang in ma outnya.

Saran buat ts, kl mau oc coba psu diganti ke minimal 650w.

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Re: ini sebenarnya VGA / PSU saya ya yang bermasalah?? - 12-10-2009, 17:45

@chandra
2. kondisi kestabilan listrik saya kurang tau.. yg jelas memang belum dikasi stabilizer / UPS.. waktu ngerakit disarankan lgs UPS, ga perlu stabilizer karena pasti stabilizernya ga bakal kuat "ngangkat" BS II saya (kata si penjual)
ntar abis ini kelar, saya beliin PSU deh.. any recommendation?

3.ntar dicoba dijalankan default.. ni VGA lagi di DPJ diganti HSF keseluruhan

4.OC nya sudah menyesuaikan kondisi cooling (ga berani lebih dr 3.6GHz, emang ga bisa denk.. waktu itu mau ke 3.8 aja ud gagal booting)

@Kuchaii & yakaduh
kurang tau persisnya nih suhu kamar brp.. yg jelas rumah saya langit2nya ga pake asbes, tapi seng (kecuali kamar tentunya) maklum bekas kost2an.. dan di depan kamar ada oven (tpi ga hadap2 an dgn kamar), klo siang panas, tpi klo malem dingin sih benernya...

ini ud rencana mau ambil Balder / S1283 benernya, eh dapet musibah jadi mungkin delay deh beli CPU coolingnya..
anyway, thx bgt buat saran2 nya semua.. GRP sent
kalo SS yg tentang rate 12V nya gimana.. itu termasuk stabil / "naik turun"?
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Re: ini sebenarnya VGA / PSU saya ya yang bermasalah?? - 12-10-2009, 17:48

wek,Stok GRP abis.. buat bro chandra nyusul ya hehe
baru nyadar, problem no.2 ada yg bisa kasi pencerahan mungkin?
ada hub nya dgn arus listrik kah?
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Re: ini sebenarnya VGA / PSU saya ya yang bermasalah?? - 12-10-2009, 19:40

kalo rate 12v, yang bagus itu stabil waktu idle, no ripple, kalo full load paling turun dikit dari 12v, kalo PSU yg bagus malah nga kurang dari 12v kalo full load.

malah kalo dibandingin ma BSII g nih:


masih bingung liat ooct, wkwkwkw
tapi kalo dilihat 12vnya sih drop tapi nga parah kok, masih diambang wajar, cmiiw
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Re: ini sebenarnya VGA / PSU saya ya yang bermasalah?? - 12-10-2009, 19:46

@TS
untuk case no. 2 mgkn bisa dicoba speaker dicabut dari PC dan diganti dgn earphone/headphone.
cek apakah masalah msih ada karna mungkin yg short d sistem audio TS.
-mdah2n bisa membantu-

nb. mumpung dapet vga baru hasil rma, mgkn sebaikny TS nyoba scan artifak dgn kondisi default.
goodluck bro
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Re: ini sebenarnya VGA / PSU saya ya yang bermasalah?? - 13-10-2009, 08:45

@chandra
itu SS PSU bro? bearti masih stabil punya saya ya CMIIW
kok saya liat lonjakannya lumayan besar gtu..

@inVain
short itu apa ya?hubungan pendek kah?
klo misalnya memang terbukti ada short, solusinya gimana ya?

sori ga bisa ngasih GRP... stok habis nieh >.<
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