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AMD K10

Berikut adalah rangkuman dari beberapa thread yg ada di forum chip ini yang berisikan informasi berita maupun preview tentang prosesor AMD K10.
(Urutan thread : lama => baru)
1. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/57849-selamat-datang-barcelona.html (post #: 2)
2. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/642...ming-proc.html (post #: 3)
3. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/64699-info-amd-claims-barcelona-k10-will-knock-intel-dead.html (post #: 4)
4. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/673...0-roadmap.html (post #: 5)
5. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/683...about-k10.html (post #: 6)
6. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/693...2d-killer.html (post #: 7)
7. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/712...ah-keluar.html (post #: 8)
8. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/72070-k10-barcelona-1-6-ghz-vs-xeon-e3220-2-4-ghz.html (post #: 9)
9. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/729...where-you.html (post #: 10)
10. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/736...-november.html (post #: 11)
11. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/742...barcelona.html (post #: 12, 13)
12. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/762...x4-action.html (post #: 14, 15, 16)
13. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/792...th-august.html (post #: 17)
14. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/815...processor.html (post #: 18, 19, 20, 21)
15. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/816...-meluncur.html (post #: 22)
16. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/818...ust-click.html (post #: 23)
17. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/824...-reviewed.html (post #: 42, 46)
18. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/829...y-opinion.html (post #: 45)
19. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/839...or-driver.html (post #: 48)
20. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/861...-sale-now.html (post #: 50)
21. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/867...uo-crysis.html (post #: 51)
22. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/869...-per-core.html (post #: 52)
23. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/872...nom-price.html (post #: 53)
24. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/885...ng-update.html (post #: 54)
25. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/888...phenom-ko.html (post #: 55)
26. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/891...view-toms.html (post #: 56)
27. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/893...rk-phenom.html (post #: 57)
28. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/893...hz-tested.html (post #: 58)
29. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/894...le-review.html (post #: 59)
30. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/895...k-edition.html (post #: 60)
31. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/902...9700-test.html (post #: 61)
32. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/902...-opterons.html (post #: 62)
33. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/896...di-2-8ghz.html (post #: 63)

Intel Penryn

Berikut adalah rangkuman dari beberapa thread yg ada di forum chip ini yang berisikan informasi berita maupun preview tentang prosesor Penryn 45nm.
(Urutan thread : lama => baru)
1. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/487...ling-45nm.html (post #: 24)
2. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/544...processor.html (post #: 25, 26, 27)
3. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/578...nm-ke-4-a.html (post #: 28)
4. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/612...n-nehalem.html (post #: 29)
5. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/652...-families.html (post #: 30)
6. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/680...benchmark.html (post #: 31, 32)
7. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/717...ghz-45-nm.html (post #: 33)
8. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/728...benchmark.html (post #: 34, 35)
9. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/741...ut-penryn.html (post #: 36)
10. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/790...rk-update.html (post #: 37)
11. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/827...i-kedepan.html (post #: 43)
12. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/832...ld-5-6ghz.html (post #: 44)
13. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/840...ri-2008-a.html (post #: 47)
14. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/857...field-wow.html (post #: 49)

Intel E2XXX dan perbedaannya dengan prosesor Intel lainnya by C4Dholics (post #: 38, 39, 40, 41)

Berikut adalah rangkuman dari beberapa thread yg ada di forum chip ini yang berisikan informasi mengenai perbedaan Intel E2XXX dengan prosesor Intel lainnya
1. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/823...ore-2-duo.html
2. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/812...alasannya.html
3. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/793...core-e2xx.html
4. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/775...bukan-c2d.html
5. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/796...xx-series.html
6. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/712...ore-2-duo.html
7. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/731...-vs-e2xxx.html
8. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/644...benchmark.html
9. http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/708...tial-test.html

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AMD resmi meluncurkan Barcelona pada tanggal 12 Februari 2007

Selain memberikan kinerja sekitar 40% lebih tinggi dari prosesor dual core yang ada saat ini, berikut adalah beberapa kelebihan Barcelona lainnya:
- shared L3 cache (AMD first)
- massively improved FP performance (AMD specify 1.8x current Opteron performance core-by-core)
- higher IPC (Instructions per Clock) than any released architecture

juga disebutkan bahwa Barcelona akan berjalan dengan clock yang lebih rendah dari dual core. Juga sepertinya akan ada prosesor dual core Barcelona sebagaimana dapat dilihat di:


Berita selengkapnya bisa dibaca di :
http://teamreview.net/forum/index.php?topic=53.0

Well..

Ada gosipnya bahwa ada benchmark bahwa Barcelona lebih cepat dari Xeon C2D. Kalo berani baca, silahkan baca di sini

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37907
dan statnya ada di sini
http://www.boincstats.com/stats/host...sah&st=0&or=10

Kalo benar bahwa "AMD Athlon(tm)/Opteron(tm) CPU-model unknown" itu Barcelona, dia menggebuk "Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X5350 @ 2.66GHz" yang ada di #2 dalam average credit / cpu, 1443 vs 1142. Kira2 26% lebih cepat.

Tapi namanya benchmark begini, yah. mungkin aja itu palsu.

ini lebih lucu lagi , Varian Barcelona for Desktop

Agena FX = the Quad FX CPU, Athlon 64 FX successor, Socket F+ with 2MB shared L3

Agena = the highend version of Agena FX, designed for Socket AM2+, X4 Athlon quad core (possible name), 2.4 - 2.6GHz, 2MB total L2 cache and 2MB of shared L3 cache per CPU

Kuma = X2 Athlon dual core, 2.0 - 2.9GHz, 1MB total L2 cache and 2MB of shared L3 cache per CPU

Rana = Sempron dual core, 2.1 to 2.3 GHz, 1MB total L2 cache, and No L3 cache
Spica = the Sempron Single core.

, Rana <-- nama temen gw jadi nama Processor , hebat euy


btw bagi yg tertarik liat Interview Randy Allen soal teknologi Processor AMD silahkeun berkunjung ke http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_n3wvsfq4Y



Mudah2an AMD cepet2 ngeluarin Barcelona , biar C2D murahhhh hehehe

hmm.. dapet nih dari http://www.techpowerup.com/ dan real source



yah.. moga2 blom ada yang post.. males buka2 dari awal..
sepetinya sekarang namanya disesuaikan dengan clock nya
jadi tambah bingung sekarang >_<

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Bocoran gambar slide presentasi utk media day AMD + ATi di Tunisia :



Sumber bocoran dari www.fudzilla.com.

Apakah sekedar angin surga atau benar adanya ? Kalo menilik rekam jejak AMD sih biasanya mereka gak sekedar jual pepesan kosong.

Apakah fastest in gaming ini berlaku HANYA di multi threaded engine game, atau juga utk game2 saat ini yg umumnya masih single threaded ? Kalo di multi threaded sih gak gitu heran karena arsitektur native quad yg lebih 'friendly', tapi kalo bisa lebih cepat di single threaded game, esp. dihitung clock per clock, WAAWW !!

Hmm, skrinsut K10 Agena s AM2+, quad core 1.9 GHz.



OCed ke 3.0 GHz Vcore naik dikit dari stock 1.273v ke 1.297v (BIOS 1.275 ke 1.300 v ?).



Yg menarik utk diketahui, apakah OC ini pake MoBo AM2 yg ada di pasaran saat ini, atau sudah pake MoBo AM2+ 'experimental' ??

Jangan lupa, ini adalah quadcore, IMHO yg dual core (Kuma) semestinya lebih OCable.

AMD: Barcelona quad-core 50% faster than Intel’s quad-core Xeon Hardware By Wolfgang Gruener Monday, April 23, 2007 00:56

Sunnyvale (CA) – Following last week’s sobering financial news, AMD today provided some news that may calm down worried analysts and investors.

AMD Barcelona - technical details in pictures ...
There are lots of question marks surrounding AMD’s first quad-core CPU, the Barcelona server/workstation processor. How fast will it be and - most importantly - will it be able to outpace Intel’s quad-core Xeon 5300-series (“Clovertown”) processors. It will, says AMD, and in fact upgraded its performance expectations.

So far, the company had claimed that Barcelona will surpass the performance of Clovertown by about 40% at any given clock speed.



Now the company says that it believes that Barcelona will have a 50% advantage over Clovertown in floating point applications and 20% in integer performance “over the competition’s highest-performing quad-core processor at the same frequency.”

AMD did not release the specific clock speeds of Barcelona. Intel’s Clovertown currently tops out at 2.66 GHz, but the company has begun supplying limited numbers of 3.0 GHz server quad-core processors.

AMD also announced the new dual-core Opteron models 2222 SE and 8222 SE, which somewhat had been announced already at the beginning of this month: AMD claims that the new 3.0 GHz Opterons beat comparable Intel Xeon 5100 series processors in three server-specific benchmarks (SPECint_rate_2006, SPECint_rate2006, SPECompM2001) by up to 24%.

The 2222 SE is available for a tray price of $873, the 8222 SE is priced at $2149. Intel’s 3.0 GHz Xeon 5160 processor currently sells for $851.

Sorry gw cuman co.pas buat nge rame in azaaaa.....
Ayo AMD fan cheer up

Update dari Fudzilla, si Fuad -and wartawan2 laen- mungkin dikasih kesempatan ama AMD buat nyebarin hasil benchmarketing mereka di Tunisia.



http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...d=663&Itemid=1

It will be nice comeback for AMD, kalo emang ini bener2 memberikan performa nyata di aplikasi real world -gak semata keunggulan sintetis apps. OTOH, Intel tentu punya senjata benchmarketing pula dgn aplikasi2 yg Intel optimised & based on Intel compiler. Akankah dunia terbalik, Intel C2 becomes the new K8, AMD K10 becomes the new C2 ??

Si Fuad klaim kalo OCnya ternyata pake MoBo AM2 yg ada di pasaran saat ini.



LINK:
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=641&Item id=1

Lumayan kalo benar demikian, karena AFAIK MoBo2 AM2 yg sekarang belum ada fitur VRM yg terpisah utk power plane MCH Integrated Mem Controller & Core processingnya -sesuai dgn spek K10 yg memisahkan power plane keduanya tsb, di mana kita masih bisa ngedongkrak corespeed & voltasenya lebih jauh, tanpa overvoltage IMC secara berlebihan. Sapa tahu dgn MoBo AM2+ prestasi OC K10 bakal lebih baik -minimal power management lebih bagus, karena dah support independent clocking utk masing2 core.

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* NOTE: 13 April 2007 AMD called to clarify the information on the Turion (see below). This will not be a migrated K10 core, but instead will include power optimisation features in Barcelona. Sorry about that. Ed.

CHIP FIRM AMD is continuing to talk up its forthcoming K10 "Barcelona" microprocessor, and to insist it will beat the competition hands down.

Guiseppe Amato, AMD's European technical director, said: "Barcelona is an architecture that must be faster."

He said that people wanting to move to the redesigned K10 core using Socket F would only need to change the BIOS - the chip would otherwise be comfortable in its surroundings.

And AMD will migrate the Barcelona core to both desktop and mobile designs, with some further tweaks.

He laid a lot of emphasis on the ability of the Barcelona to deliver four FPs ber clock cycle, as well as having a bigger buffer and L1, L2, and L3 caches. He also claimed that the memory connect design of the microprocessor will give it an inherent advantage over Intel's designs.

He acknowledged that much depends on applications but claimed that Intel only showed numbers based on benchmarks rather on real world apps. It only showed benchmarks that favoured its case, he said.

The Turion Barcelona chip, when it's released, probably in the second half of 2007, will be optimised further for lower power consumption.

And Amato claimed: "We aren't losing market share at all."

* THE BRIEFINGS could well be linked to the fact that it's Intel's Developer Forum in Beijing next week and AMD may not be able to organise publicity stunts as it used to do in Palm Springs and San Francisco. On the other hand, we hear that Hector Ruiz is in Beijing next week...




Source: http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=38888
Mirror: http://xtremenitro.org/?p=24

So, harus nunggu berapa lama lagi untuk nunggu K10 keluar? Apakah janji AMD ini bisa terealisasi dahulu atau keduluan lagi sama Intel?

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Roadmap(speculative):

semoga berguna bagi yg mau upgrade prosesor yang akan menjadi kelas berat Core 2 Duo ataupun Core 2 Quad ...

Server:
Opteron 8272SE 2.6GHz 120W TDP, socket F, 3 cHT links, 2000MT/s, DDR2-667, Q2 2008
Opteron 8270SE 2.5GHz 120W TDP, socket F, 3 cHT links, 2000MT/s, DDR2-667, Q3 2007
Opteron 8268SE 2.4GHz 120W TDP, socket F, 3 cHT links, 2000MT/s, DDR2-667, Q3 2007
Opteron 8266 2.3GHz 95W TDP, socket F, 3 cHT links, 2000MT/s, DDR2-667, Q3 2007
Opteron 8264 2.2GHz 95W TDP, socket F, 3 cHT links, 2000MT/s, DDR2-667, Q3 2007
Opteron 8262 2.1GHz 95W TDP, socket F, 3 cHT links, 2000MT/s, DDR2-667, Q3 2007
Opteron 8260HE 2.0GHz 68W TDP, socket F, 3 cHT links, 2000MT/s, DDR2-667, Q4 2007
Opteron 8258HE 1.9GHz 68W TDP, socket F, 3 cHT links, 2000MT/s, DDR2-667, Q4 2007
Opteron 2272SE 2.6GHz 120W TDP, socket F, 2 cHT links, 2000MT/s, DDR2-667, Q2 2008
Opteron 2270SE 2.5GHz 120W TDP, socket F, 2 cHT links, 2000MT/s, DDR2-667, Q3 2007
Opteron 2268SE 2.4GHz 120W TDP, socket F, 2 cHT links, 2000MT/s, DDR2-667, Q3 2007
Opteron 2266 2.3GHz 95W TDP, socket F, 2 cHT links, 2000MT/s, DDR2-667, Q3 2007
Opteron 2264 2.2GHz 95W TDP, socket F, 2 cHT links, 2000MT/s, DDR2-667, Q3 2007
Opteron 2262 2.1GHz 95W TDP, socket F, 2 cHT links, 2000MT/s, DDR2-667, Q3 2007
Opteron 2260HE 2.0GHz 68W TDP, socket F, 2 cHT links, 2000MT/s, DDR2-667, Q4 2007
Opteron 2258HE 1.9GHz 68W TDP, socket F, 2 cHT links, 2000MT/s, DDR2-667, Q4 2007
Opteron 1370SE 2.5GHz 120W TDP, socket AM2+, 1 cHT link, 5200MT/s, DDR2-1067, 2008
Opteron 1368SE 2.4GHz 120W TDP, socket AM2+, 1 cHT link, 5200MT/s, DDR2-1067, 2008
Opteron 1366 2.3GHz 95W TDP, socket AM2+, 1 cHT link, 5200MT/s, DDR2-1067, 2008
Opteron 1364 2.2GHz 95W TDP, socket AM2+, 1 cHT link, 5200MT/s, DDR2-1067, 2008
Opteron 1362 2.1GHz 95W TDP, socket AM2+, 1 cHT link, 5200MT/s, DDR2-1067, 2008

Desktop:
AgenaFX 2.9GHz, unknown TDP, socket 1207+(Quad FX), 2 cHT links, 4000MT/s. DDR2-1067, 2008
AgenaFX 2.8GHz, unknown TDP, socket 1207+(Quad FX), 2 cHT links, 4000MT/s. DDR2-1067, 2008
AgenaFX 2.7GHz, unknown TDP, socket 1207+(Quad FX), 2 cHT links, 4000MT/s. DDR2-1067, 2008
Agena 2.6GHz, 125W TDP, socket AM2+, 1 cHT link, 4000MT/s, DDR2-1067, Q4 2007
Agena 2.5GHz, 125W TDP, socket AM2+, 1 cHT link, 4000MT/s, DDR2-1067, Q4 2007
Agena 2.4GHz, 125W TDP, socket AM2+, 1 cHT link, 4000MT/s, DDR2-1067, Q4 2007
Kuma(dualcore) 2.9GHz, 89W TDP, socket AM2+, 1 cHT link, 4000MT/s, DDR2-1067, Q4 2007
Kuma(dualcore) 2.8GHz, 89W TDP, socket AM2+, 1 cHT link, 4000MT/s, DDR2-1067, Q4 2007
Kuma(dualcore) 2.7GHz, 89W TDP, socket AM2+, 1 cHT link, 4000MT/s, DDR2-1067, Q4 2007
Kuma(dualcore) 2.6GHz, 89W TDP, socket AM2+, 1 cHT link, 4000MT/s, DDR2-1067, Q4 2007
Kuma(dualcore) 2.5GHz, 89W TDP, socket AM2+, 1 cHT link, 4000MT/s, DDR2-1067, Q4 2007
Kuma(dualcore) 2.4GHz, 89W TDP, socket AM2+, 1 cHT link, 4000MT/s, DDR2-1067, Q4 2007
Kuma(dualcore) 2.3GHz, 89W TDP, socket AM2+, 1 cHT link, 4000MT/s, DDR2-1067, Q4 2007
Kuma(dualcore) 2.2GHz, 89W TDP, socket AM2+, 1 cHT link, 4000MT/s, DDR2-1067, Q4 2007
Kuma(dualcore) 2.1GHz, 89W TDP, socket AM2+, 1 cHT link, 4000MT/s, DDR2-1067, Q4 2007
Kuma(dualcore) 2.0GHz, 89W TDP, socket AM2+, 1 cHT link, 4000MT/s, DDR2-1067, Q4 2007


SPESIFIKASI LENGKAP :


Quad-core
- Native quad-core design
- Redesigned and improved crossbar(northbridge)
- Improved power management
- New level of cache added, L3 VICTIM
Power management - DICE(Dynamic Independent Core Engagement)
- PLLs for each core, clocked independently and varies clock speed depending on usage.
- ODMC power management: ability to shut down read channels if memory is only using writes and vice versa:
* Reduces the power consumption of the memory controller by up to 80% on "many" workloads.
- Aggressive grained clock gating
- Power management state invariant time stamp counter (TSC)
- Enhanced AMD's PowerNow - works independently without OS driver support
Virtualization improvements
- Nested Paging(NP):
* Guest and Host page tables both exist in memory.(The CPU walks both page tables)
* Nested walk can have up to 24 memory acesses! (Hardware caching accelerates the walk)
* "Wire-to-wire" translations are cached in TLBs
* NP eliminates Hypervisor cycles spent managing shadow pages(As much as 75% Hypervisor time)
- Reduced world-switch time by 25%:
* World-switch time: round-trup to Hypervisor and back
Dedicated L1 cache
- 256bit 128kB (64kB instruction/64kB data), 2-way associative
- 2 x 128bit loads/cycle
- lowest latency
Dedicated L2 cache
- 128bit 512kB, 16-way associative
- 128bit bus to northbridge
- reduced latency
- eliminates conflicts common in shared caches - better for virtualization
Shared L3 cache
- 128bit 2MB, 32-way associative
- Victim-cache architecture maximizes efficiency of cache hierarchy
- Fills from L3 leave likely shared lines in the L3
- Sharing-aware replacement policy
- Expandable
Independent DRAM controllers
- Concurrency
- More DRAM banks reduces page conflicts
- Longer burst length improves command efficiency
- Dual channel unbuffered 1066 support(applies to socket AM2+ and s1207+ QFX only)
- Channel Interleaving
Optimized DRAM paging
- Increase page hits
- Decrease page conflicts
Re-architect northbridge for higher bandwidth
- Increase buffer sizes
- Optimize schedulers
- Ready to support future DRAM technologies
Write bursting
- Minimize Rd/Wr Turnaround
DRAM prefetcher
- Track positive and negative, unit and non-unit strides
- Dedicated buffer for prefetched data
- Aggressively fill idle DRAM cycles
Core prefetchers
- DC Prefetcher fills directly to L1 Cache
- IC Prefetcher more flexible
* 2 outstanding requests to any address
HyperTransport 3
- Up to three 16bit cHT links
- Up to 5200MT/s per link
- Un-ganging mode: each 16bit HT link can be divided in two 8bit virutal links
- Can dynamically adjust frequency and bit width to save power
- AC mode (higher latency mode) to allow longer communications distances
- Hot pluggable

Duh.. Sepertinya tragedi socket 939 akan terulang lagi nih..

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...504112426.html

Sepertinya pernah gue baca berita kayak gini 1-2 tahun lalu.. Ketika AMD pilih tetep di DDR1..

Moga2 AM3 beneran compatible AM2 deh.. Kalo gak.. weleh..

yang ini barangkali

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=7157
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sumbernya dari sini nih:
http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardw...ict223161.html

lumayan valid meskipun data yang muncul dari amd suka berubah, namanya juga masih lom final release, segala sesuatu bisa terjadi di menit2 terakhir

These pictures were taken only a few minutes ago. AMD showed off their Barcelona quad-core processors in action today in Monterrey, California. What you see in the pictures below are single processor and dual processor configurations, so a true "4x4" is now realized by AMD that looks very comfortable on an enthusiast desktop. And yes, those are Radeon X2900 XT video cards in the systems. Ian McNaughton showed off both systems encoding a 1080P trailer of Spiderman 3 to an H.264 format. On the dual quad-core Barcelona machine the encoding nearly ran real time. Extremely impressive. You will be seeing Barcelona in servers long before it finally gets to our desktops though.

The speed of the processors was not disclosed, but given the speed of the encoding done they were not "slow" processors by any stretch of the imagination. Sticking my hand into the machines and feeling the base of the CPU heatsinks, the slightest warmth was detected. The same went for the northbridge heatsinks in the systems as well.


Also shown off was a 300mm wafer that was composed of 45nm parts built in AMD's Fab 36 in Dresden, Germany.

Selain processor roadmap, AMD juga menyiapkan employee roadmap, begini cuplikan beritanya:
"Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) siap memecat ratusan karyawannya yang tersebar di seluruh negara dalam waktu dekat. Pemutusan hubungan kerja (PHK) akan dilakukan terhadap 430 orang karyawan atau 2,6 persen dari total karyawan AMD."
Selengkapnya di
http://www.detikinet.com/index.php/d...78/idkanal/319

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kalo beritanya basi, maafkan ya.....

mengenai barcelona, ada artikel menarik di anandtech
Sumber:
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2986&p=1

karena gw sendiri males baca artikel inggris yg panjang, jadi silakan baca sendiri ya....
yg paling gw tangkep dari artikel ini sih...

kalo bener, berarti para pemilik soket AM2 masih dapat menggunakan mobo mereka ampe tahun 2009, abis itu kayaknya amd bakal ngeluarin soket baru nih...
menurut artikel ini jg, dari perubahan soket AM2 ke AM2+ sendiri peningkatan yg dihasilkan gak bakal terlalu kerasa bwt kelas desktop, peningkatan paling kerasa di pc workstation

Di sisi server, AMD benar2 bakal panen besar. Dia hanya kalah apabila dia nggak bisa bikin processornya secara cukup (kelemahan utama AMD menurut saya).

Intel server platform sekarang ini, bukan hanya kalah secara performa, tapi juga kalah secara power drain dan heat, walaupun dia pake teknologi 3 tahun lebih baru dibanding AMD K8. Makannya Intel nggak berani mainin kartu performance/watt nya di platform server. Kalo kamu lihat motherboard Tigerton di inquirer, kamu bakal merasa seram banget. Baru kali ini saya melihat copper HSF yang besar untuk chipset. Mungkin Tigerton bakal irit daya dari CPUnya (HSFnya turun ke aluminum), tapi bakal ambil daya lebih besar dari FBDIMM dan motherboard.

Nah, apabila platform Intel nggak bisa ngalahin platform AMD 3 tahun yang lalu, mana bisa dia ngalahin platform AMD yang baru? Jadi pantas saja Intel berani banting harga processor pas waktu Barcelona keluar.

Anyway, inquirer keluarin screenshot tentang performanya K10 di PovRay. Untuk quad core Barcelona di 16 core system, Povray scorenya itu 4000an. Dia dibandingkan dengan Dual Core Opty HE yang scorenya 2200an. Kedua platform ini hanya beda di CPU dan BIOS, sisanya semua sama termasuk motherboard.

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=39756

Yup.. ini benar2 proof bahwa K10 itu upgraders dream. Cuman perlu ganti processor dan BIOS doang sudah bisa dapat quad core

@Ore,
Kalo kamu lihat banyaknya instruksi baru di SSE4 (47 untuk SSE4.1 dan 54 termasuk SSE4.2 untuk Nehalem nanti), 4 instruksi baru dari AMD SSE4A itu nggak ada artinya. LZCNT dan POPCNT itu instruksi bit manipulation, bukan SSE.

@Perdana
Intel menang karena implementasi SSEnya lebih bagus. Nggak heran, itu instruksi dia yang bikin. Lagipula kebanyakan khan pake Intel compiler. Very Intel optimized.

Tapi ini juga tidak selalu. Yonah (precursornya Conroe) itu jelek banget multimedia scorenya dibanding AMD K8, bahkan SSE optimized sekalipun. Makannya salah satu perubahan besar dari Yonah ke Conroe adalah di SSE ini. Conroe bisa menjalankan dua SSE1/2 instruction dalam satu cycle.

AMD, dengan SSE128 yang lebih besar ini juga bisa menjalankan dua SSE1/2 instruction dalam satu cycle. Coba baca dua paragraph terakhir dari ulasan Anandtech mengenai Barcelona SSE128 di sini
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=2939&p=3

Nah, apabila Yonah yang FPU dan SSEnya loyo ini bisa berubah jadi sangar di Conroe karena SSE improvement ini, kenapa AMD nggak bisa? Dia khan melakukan apa yang dilakukan oleh Intel sebelumnya, hanya caranya beda. Makannya saya bisa berani tebak bahwa di SSE1-3, AMD bisa ngimbangin atau bahkan menang sedikit. Kalo SSE4, Intel all the way.

Makannya saya bilang lompatannya K8 ke K10 itu sama seperti lompatannya Core Duo (Yonah) ke Core2Duo (Conroe).

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Aku dapet beritanya nich:
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_543~117412,00.html?redir=dtqc01
katanya sich udah mo dirilis... btw, tau predikisi harga Phenom ini ga?? aku newbie nich HT apa?? Hyper Threading?? trus gunanya apa??
CMIIW

isu? check this link

klo misalnya klaim AMD tentang Barcelona 40% lebih kenceng dibanding proc intel yng sekarang itu bener keadaannya bakal terbalik. performance Penryn ngga bakal loncat terlalu jauh dari Kentsfield karena bagaimanapun Penryn masih dari dari generasi yang sama

gue tambahkan data phenom, tapi kok munculnya lama amat sih AMD

klu Intel kan masih pakai FSB dan AMD sudah pakai Hypertransport

fungsi Hypertransport
1. pengganti FSB
2. menyambung jalur koneksi chipset-CPU dengan speed cepat.

kelebihan versi 3 dibanding 2 adalah kecepatannya..

ini link wikinya
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperTransport

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http://www.dailytech.com/652007+Dail...rticle7547.htm
yang ini ?

Kayanya nama menjadi BE atau LS itu hanya rename dari Athlon64

tapi untuk Phenom sendiri sepertinya belom muncul hari ini.

nih jelasnya : http://www.dailytech.com/AMD+Expands...rticle7537.htm

lha kemarin barcelona yg di test @1,6ghz itu masuk kategory phenom juga kagak?

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=7554

Questions hang over AMD after show debacle

Computex 007 Intel was happy, surely

By Nebojsa Novakovic: Saturday 09 June 2007, 11:28

I HAVEN'T had a chance to see AMD's upcoming Phenom, Barcelona, Agena, whatever working first hand till now, and was hoping for Computex to be the place for "enlightenment" on this matter.

Too bad, it was not to be - a few sealed machines, not to be seen by the public, don't count.

Instead, there were worries, comments, complaints all over the show floor.

You've seen our reports on the delays of the new quad core, as well as Intel's Boyd Davis comments - he must have been grinning about his competitor's problems.

Anyway, the feelings among the crowd vary from the mobo vendors complaints about mainboards for AM2+ and Socket G made ready, but no new chips to insert, to an AMD channel partner feeling stuffed, very literally, with a load of current AM2 chips and no takers for them. Why should there be any, when Phenom was supposed to be the next sales phenomenon and sweep the market off its feet? :laugh:

Luckily, Cray wasn't at the show to shed tears over its grievances.

Whether I asked AMD or partners, the Phenom answer on the availability was - "doing our best" or, more often, "no comment". That is far worse than what I was hearing a few months ago.

At the same time, Intel gloated in a probably deserved show victory, with Penryns in multiple PC, workstation and server configurations shown to all and sundry.
No hidden tables or secret rooms there, anyone could play with them. The 3.33GHz/FSB 1333 desktop and 3.2GHz/FSB1600 workstatind and server platforms were out with clear specs.
Practically, they could have as well officially launched the CPUs - except that, at the official launch, the speeds may be even higher.

Further adding insult to injury, many existing boards using Nforce 680i and Intel P35 chipsets were announced to have full Penryn support - at full FSB speed too, that is.
So, if in the mood, without changing anything else, many "enthusiasts" could upgrade the CPUs in their current souped-up PCs and keep their monster systems fully in the fashion and on top of the performance pyramid, at least till Nehalems roll in late next year - all it takes is a BIOS update at most.


One Intel exec told me that, after seeing the Phenom(enal) fiasco on the show, he felt there may not even have been a need to rush out Penryns so fast, but, since the 45 nm newbie is pretty much ready, may as well let it roll and cement the lead - the train has departed the station, so stepping on the accelerators is the only choice.

If this situation continues and AMD doesn't correct the problem real soon, the victim will not only be AMD's share price - we're talking far more serious consequences, not limited to the vendors asking tough questions.

The IT world just wouldn't be the same if AMD falters, even temporarily - proper, timely Barcelona/Agena execution is really "to be or not to be" for the company.

AMD, where art thou on the wide Catalonian lands? µ


wew , even from INQ , its rather shocking right ?
AMD aka Phenom aka Barcelona aka Agena where are thouuu ?

gitu aja reportttt ......

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Quad Core Barcelona 1.6 Ghz dengan single soket menggunakan motherboard Nvidia Nforce Pro 3400 sedangkan dari sisi Intel, yang paling mirip adalah Xeon E3220 2.4 Ghz dan motherboard Intel Garlow X38.

Kedua sistem sama-sama menggunakan memori 4 GB namun AMD hanya PC-667 sedangkan Intel PC-800. Sedangkan Windows yang digunakan adalah Windows 2003 R2 64 bit


Barcelona yang berkecepatan 1.6 Ghz menyelesaikan tes cinebench standar dengan waktu 27 detik sedangkan Xeon E3220 menyelesaikan dengan 17 detik. Xeon menyelesaikan 58% lebih cepat dengan clock 50% lebih tinggi.

Sumber-sumber menyatakan bahwa Barcelona 2.0 Ghz juga sudah siap diluncurkan sedangkan versi 2.3 Ghz sedang dalam penyelesaian.

bbrp link yg lain karena link TS nggak jalan
http://www.dailytech.com/Quick+and+D...rticle7574.htm

Kt Anandtech:
Barca cmn bisa pake DDR2 sampe 667 karena mobo masih terlalu muda BIOSnya..

Dan sepertinya BArca menjadi mimpi buruk bagi para produsen motherboard. Bukan karena beda socket, tapi BIOS katanya perlu dimodifikasi gede2an..

Kl gw gak salah baca sih gitu.. Baca di sini dah..

http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=3006

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Quote dari www.amd.com langsung... apa sich PHENOM itu??? Ini dia


Processor Quad Core AMD yang ditujukan untuk Gamers dan Non Gamers!

altair dan atares? code name buat next gen amd mungkin?
soalnya untuk sekarang ini kalo desktop mah code name-nya : agena, agena fx, kuma dan rana.
kalo buat server ada barcelona dan budaphest. kedepannya udah dipersiapin shanghai dan montreal buat menjegal penryn/nehalem.
(CMIIW)
info diambil dari : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_K10

nanti, setelah "Jakarta" dan "Bandung".

btw, bagi yang mau baca roadmap amd bisa liat link ini :
Tracking AMD - Roadmap 2006-2007

Ini gw nemu infonya... cuman ini kayaknya udah lama (expired ???) karena waktu jamannya isu K8L.
Mungkin sekarang udah diganti kode jadi Phenom tsb yach ?


http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/10...d_k8l_roadmap/

Oh, BTW.. Barcelona keluarnya Agustus menurut Inquirer. Nggak tahu ini benar atau nggak soalnya nggak kasih tahu siapa yang nulis.

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=40465

roadmap amd terbaru (source : VR-zone ... yup, jadinya Q4 07, tapi diperkirakan sep-okt itu baru tahap test nya... release nya Nov-Des

Link sejenis nich..... mampir juga kesini donk!
http://forum.chip.co.id/prosesor/736...-november.html